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Pure Trope [Apr. 5th, 2008|05:18 pm]
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So doing Simon got me really thinking hard about the Way I Do Comics and I started to really start attacking myself on a collection of fronts, because where Simon succeeded were places where usually I fail, and where it failed it smelled an awful lot like it was failing the way my other stories have failed.

And I started gnawing on myself.

What's with all the science fiction, man? What's with all the tropes? Why the word play and base comedy and stereotyped Hero Shots and Adventure Runs and mimicry of Star Trek plots? Isn't all that stuff the very stuff that's keeping me from doing good and original work?

So I stewed over a few new ideas, and started mumbling to myself "give up the Epic, give up Firefly with Bunnies-- they're crap. Trope-soaked crap." I started thinking really drastic stuff like "no more science fiction" and "write what you know-- write what you FUCKING KNOW" And in this haze of eerily mingled self-loathing and megalomania I picked up Alan Moore's Writing for Comics and started reading. For a few pages Alan Moore confirmed everything I'd been chanting to myself. IDEAS, man, he kept saying, that's what you need to seed with, and I started plotting my transformation into some kind of weirdo post-modernist literature comics artist-- until I put down the book for a moment and abruptly remembered that Watchmen is a great heaping pile of superhero tropes.

It swims in superhero tropes. They ooze from its very pores. But Watchmen is still way better than 99.998% of all comics, everywhere, because lurking just beneath all those tropes is a story that rocks, and beneath that is a devastating thought-- that maybe it's all bullshit, and our only hope of not going crazy or killing each other is to pointedly ignore that very real fact.

So no, I don't have to stop writing science fiction or drop one adorable nod to Firefly from FWB. But I do have to look underneath the fun gags and neat-o moments and figure out what I should be saying with it. Because doing that won't just make me feel better about writing furry science fiction. It'll make said furry science fiction better.

Assuming I'm not just having delusions of grandeur. That seems to happen to me a lot.
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-04-09 07:01 am (UTC)

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I think that the reason why tropes exist, is because it provides a base bridge to go between the artist and the reader. It's a way of saying "Hello, here's what's going on." in less than a paragraph, and forms the initial.. grab, I guess, into the material. For example, when I first began reading Umlaut House, the foremost thing that came to my mind was "Comedy". I was reading the comic long before I became involved in anything engineering, so that side didn't appeal to me, and I wasn't really interested in the "Gay" part of it, so much as the romance in general.. and sappy romance stories don't do it for me either. It's the funny melded with the cute, described in the basest of terms, that initially attracted me to the comic.

.. Wandering train of thought aside, if you'd dropped the trope and gone simply for off the wall humor based entirely off of the quirks of the characters and concept, it wouldn't have pulled me in. Because, for comics, if you can't read a strip and understand it, it's unlikely to keep your attention. You're not writing an epic series of novels or a 5000 page documentary, you're encapsulating a laugh into 4 panels 3 times a week, and sowing in a little piece of yourself each time, until it becomes something else. Forcing yourself out of what has worked for you, and out of what you actually want to do, in the name of being 100% unadulteratedly unique, more often than not, backfires. It's like those paintings that are nothing more than a collection of random dots.. there's no rhyme or reason to them, and even if you can draw out or divine some kind of emotion from them, they still don't.. depict anything, or tell a story. Their only appeal is simply that they're not something else.
From: (Anonymous)
2008-04-09 07:02 am (UTC)

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I think that the reason why tropes exist, is because it provides a base bridge to go between the artist and the reader. It's a way of saying "Hello, here's what's going on." in less than a paragraph, and forms the initial.. grab, I guess, into the material. For example, when I first began reading Umlaut House, the foremost thing that came to my mind was "Comedy". I was reading the comic long before I became involved in anything engineering, so that side didn't appeal to me, and I wasn't really interested in the "Gay" part of it, so much as the romance in general.. and sappy romance stories don't do it for me either. It's the funny melded with the cute, described in the basest of terms, that initially attracted me to the comic.

.. Wandering train of thought aside, if you'd dropped the trope and gone simply for off the wall humor based entirely off of the quirks of the characters and concept, it wouldn't have pulled me in. Because, for comics, if you can't read a strip and understand it, it's unlikely to keep your attention. You're not writing an epic series of novels or a 5000 page documentary, you're encapsulating a laugh into 4 panels 3 times a week, and sowing in a little piece of yourself each time, until it becomes something else. Forcing yourself out of what has worked for you, and out of what you actually want to do, in the name of being 100% unadulteratedly unique, more often than not, backfires. It's like those paintings that are nothing more than a collection of random dots.. there's no rhyme or reason to them, and even if you can draw out or divine some kind of emotion from them, they still don't.. depict anything, or tell a story. Their only appeal is simply that they're not something else.

--Cyril Dran
[User Picture]From: [info]cabcat
2008-04-09 10:45 am (UTC)

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Stop gnawing on yourself, its a terrible habit ;)
[User Picture]From: [info]cassol
2008-04-11 12:36 pm (UTC)

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"It would be a parody of Mahou Shojo, and [...] and one of the heroes would be a Hot-Blood Cute Shotaro Boy with a British accent who dual-wields BFS's that can turn into shields, thematically named Wootz and Damascus, whose finishing technique would be traveling back in time, shrinking, and going on a Fantastic Voyage into his opponent's mother's womb and delivering a Single (or maybe double) Diagonal Slash to the zygote that will eventually be his opponent, causing them to fall apart years later, right after he travels back in time..."

Trust me, you're fine.